A continuation.

To continue with my thoughts of yesterday...

I once heard a pastor declare that the Bible did not say anything against a certain Lifestyle choice. the problem is that I heard of one place where such a statement IS made. And I heard about it long before I ever thought about being a Christian. (Genesis 18:20-19:5)

In order to make that claim the guy had to completely ignore that part or reinterpret it.
There are other verses but I do not have time to list them all right now.

I have heard many things come from a pulpit that ought not to have been said. (because what was said was wrong.) And I know of people who have trouble with Christianity because of pastors like that.

Of course there was one point in time I was conversing with a pastor (one on one) and I mentioned that I felt I ought to be preparing the ground as it were, I was referring to the parable of the sower.
Any way my point was that if I am going to spread the news of God I think I have at least SOME obligation to make sure it is getting to where it needs to be.

He (the pastor)said. "isn't that God's job?". (meaning, I assume, that I am being presumptuous in taking over and trying to play God.)
I was a bit floored at the time, and unsure of how to answer, but responded that I suppose, yes God will do that.

What I didn't say was... "BUT the way I understand it, and here is where I might be in the wrong, much of what God wants done here on earth is done through HIS PEOPLE here on earth."

You see it is my understanding that we are supposed to work for the Lord. Not so that we can be saved, but out of love for him.
We receive his saving grace "not by works or deeds but through Faith that we might not boast." but there is still the work of the kingdom to do.
And Jesus sent out the apostles saying "go and make disciples of all men." Indeed when he called Simon-Peter and his brother he said " I will make you fisher's of men." which tells me that we are to be doing the work of God, not just sitting back lazily waiting for God to do it all.

And as the Bible says we are to be laborers. I do not see telling someone "hey read John 3:16!" as being Labor. eh but what do I know?
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My point is, Jesus said whatever you do for these, the least of my [people] you do it for me." and for me that means I want to try to do ALL I can for them. not just the bare minimum to scrape by.

So that is why I have this here. if you wish to open debate on these topics, that is fine. I am willing to have a reasonable discussion with anyone, we are all equal here.
If we can grow and learn more about God and his will then that is great.

Matthew 9:37